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anendeloflorien
07-28-2008, 10:31 AM
Hey guys and gals, I had a couple of questions regarding kingsnake genetics. Are the genetics basically the same as with BPs??? Like I just got my lav albino cal king and I'm wondering if that would be a dom/co-dom/recessive gene? Say if I were to breed him to a normal king would I have a chance of 50/50 normals and lav albinos?
Also are most colubrids inter-breedable? I know I've seens some king/corn hybrids so would breeding him to a female corn produce lav albino corn/king hybrids? Just some noob questions :sorry: and feel free to ignore at your leisure :lalala:

kare
07-28-2008, 01:43 PM
Cal kings have a great abundance of morphs. Your albino is a recessive, so bred to a normal: you'd get all normal looking babies that are het albino. The choices are normal banded, normal stripe, normal "dit-dot", ruby-eyed lavender, blue-eyed lavender, albino banded, albino stripe, banana,etc. etc. There are people who breed the coastal Cal. kings to the desert Cal. kings, too. In my opinion, the colors get muddled, but to each their own. (The bands/stripes on coastals are yellow and deserts are white.)

anendeloflorien
07-28-2008, 02:04 PM
Cal kings have a great abundance of morphs. Your albino is a recessive, so bred to a normal: you'd get all normal looking babies that are het albino. The choices are normal banded, normal stripe, normal "dit-dot", ruby-eyed lavender, blue-eyed lavender, albino banded, albino stripe, banana,etc. etc. There are people who breed the coastal Cal. kings to the desert Cal. kings, too. In my opinion, the colors get muddled, but to each their own. (The bands/stripes on coastals are yellow and deserts are white.)

Huh, ok that definitely explains a lot for me thanks :madgrin:! So this guys would have to be a ruby-eyed lavendar albino yes?
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg39/anendeloflorien/Nickies%20Camera/snake%20pics/DSC02135.jpg
I'm loving learning all this but there is just sooooo much to learn especially since I'm just getting into BP genetics also :bored:

kare
07-28-2008, 03:33 PM
Well, there is a contention on the "lavender" title. ALL albinos have a light lavender hue to them and red eyes, the snakes commonly called "lavender" are hypomenlanistic. The hypomelanistic are divided into the ruby eyes and the blue eyes. So, when you hear "lavender" by most snake people, they are talking about the hypomelanistic snake, not the albino. At least here, in the Midwest, yours would simply be called an albino cal king. (or more specifically, a Coastal banded albino California kingsnake)

SNSnakes
07-28-2008, 05:48 PM
The differences between hypo Cal-kings (the ruby-eyed lavanders) and albino Cal-kings is slight. Hypos have a darker "ruby" color to their eyes and slightly darker "lavander" banding. Albinos have light red eyes and lighter "lavender" banding. Then there are the "blue eyed blondes"...hypos from specific locales that are darker than the ruby eyed hypos and have blue eyes. There are two different bloodlines of the blue eyed hypos.

All of the traits in Cal-kings are recessive. I'm not aware of any co-dom traits in Cal-kings, except perhaps pattern. A srtipe X banded mating usually gets you abberant patterns, but sometimes you get more bandeds than pure stripes.

Cross breeding with corns, etc. has been done before, but I'm not a fan of it.

Nice pic! What you have there is a nice high yellow albino Cal-king (otherwise known as a coastal Cal-king). If you bred it to a normal Cal-king, ALL the babies would come out looking normal but be 100% het for albino...unless the normal parent was also 100% het albino, then the babies would be half normal and half albino statistically speaking.

Chandler Rep
07-28-2008, 09:17 PM
Your best bet to learn about the genetics is to find a book called the cornsnake morph guide, or the genetics for herpers....it will start you on the right path that you can use in all the snake species.....also find some of the breeders online and read their sites....some have put alot of work into sections explaining genetics (vms comes to mind)....

anendeloflorien
07-28-2008, 10:51 PM
Your best bet to learn about the genetics is to find a book called the cornsnake morph guide, or the genetics for herpers....it will start you on the right path that you can use in all the snake species.....also find some of the breeders online and read their sites....some have put alot of work into sections explaining genetics (vms comes to mind)....

Awesome I will definitely look both of those books up :eusa_dance: I love to read so that'll give me some good reading material for a good while I'm guessing. i appreciate all the input you guys have given I'm here to learn and I learn more and more every day round therse parts :whoo:

Chandler Rep
07-28-2008, 10:55 PM
Awesome I will definitely look both of those books up :eusa_dance: I love to read so that'll give me some good reading material for a good while I'm guessing. i appreciate all the input you guys have given I'm here to learn and I learn more and more every day round therse parts :whoo:

It would be alot easier than me trying to explain any of it....I ramble and ramble and still don't get to a point most of the time....